{"id":84,"date":"2012-08-03T16:16:21","date_gmt":"2012-08-03T16:16:21","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.wallstreetandkstreet.com\/?p=84"},"modified":"2012-08-22T18:48:31","modified_gmt":"2012-08-22T18:48:31","slug":"another-contrarian-equity-buy-signal-from-bill-gross","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.wallstreetandkstreet.com\/?p=84","title":{"rendered":"Another Stock Market Buy Signal from Bill Gross?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Recently Bill Gross, the brilliant \u201cbond king\u201d who\u00a0 founded Pimco, published a market commentary which <strong>The Wall Street Journal<\/strong> summarized with the headline:<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bill Gross:\u00a0 Stocks Are Dead and Operate Like a \u2018Ponzi Scheme\u2019<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>It sounds ominous, but it could be bullish.\u00a0 Judging from published reports, the timing of Mr. Gross\u2019s bearish stock market calls has been less than perfect.\u00a0 A \u00a0CNNMoney article dated Sept. 6, 2002 carried this headline:<\/p>\n<p><strong>Gross predicts Dow 5,000.\u00a0 Influential Pimco bond manager sees stocks moving lower before recovery begins.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>CNN reported that Gross expected stocks to fall another 40%.\u00a0 In fact stocks troughed in September 2002 and rose 22% over the next year, 37% over the next two years, and 87% over the next five years.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Deconstructing the \u201cCult of Equities\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Nevertheless, Gross\u2019 recent commentary spotlights an issue that merits close attention.\u00a0 He argues that baby boomers became unduly infatuated with stocks.\u00a0\u00a0 They<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;. . . grew wealthier believing that pieces of paper representing &#8216;shares&#8217; of future profits were something more than a conditional IOU that came with risk.\u00a0 Had not history confirmed it?\u00a0 Jeremy Siegel\u2019s rather ill-timed book affirming the equity cult, published in the late 1990s, allowed for brief cyclical bear markets, but showered scorn on any heretic willing to question the inevitability of a decade-long period of upside stock market performance compared to the alternatives.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Mr. Gross is being a bit unfair to Prof. Siegel of the Wharton School, who published <strong>Stocks for the Long Run<\/strong> not \u201cin the late 1990s\u201d near the top of the bull market, but rather in 1994.\u00a0 The latest data points in the book are for 1992, when stocks were languishing during an anemic \u201cjobless recovery.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Gross\u2019 claim that the equity cult only \u201callowed for brief cyclical bear markets\u201d is also questionable.\u00a0 It is well known that stock prices \u201cwent nowhere\u201d in the 1930s and 1940s, and again in the 1970s. Indeed, Siegel wrote \u201cStocks have what economists call mean-reverting returns, meaning that over long periods of time, high returns seem to be followed by periods of low returns and vice versa.\u201d\u00a0 This is particularly relevant today, because if Siegel is correct then stocks, following poor returns from 2000 to 2012, should be about to enter an extended period of strong performance.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ponzi Scheme?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The clever title of Gross\u2019 piece, \u201cCult Figure,\u201d refers to 6.6%.\u00a0 This is what Jeremy Siegel determined, after exhaustive historical research going back to 1802, to be the \u201cnormal\u201d and surprisingly consistent long-term real total return from equities.\u00a0 Let\u2019s unpack this figure, because the details matter:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>\u201cLong term\u201d means <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">not <\/span>five or ten years, but something like fifty years\u2014long enough to even out the lags and lurches in stock prices.<\/li>\n<li>These are <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">pre-tax<\/span> returns.<\/li>\n<li>These are <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">real<\/span>, i.e., after inflation, returns.<\/li>\n<li>All <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">dividends are reinvested <\/span>in the stock market.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>The cult figure means if you put $100,000 in a tax-free account, invested it in the S&amp;P 500, and reinvested all the dividends, then after fifty year the purchasing power of the fund should have climbed to $2,442,644.\u00a0 Not bad, but you do have to wait fifty years before spending a dime.<\/p>\n<p>Gross claims this 6.6% real return is a \u201cPonzi scheme\u201d because real GDP has only grown 3.5%.\u00a0 If equity investors get 6.6% \u201cthen somehow stockholders must have been skimming 3% off the top each and every year.\u201d\u00a0 This will be even less sustainable in the future, he claims, for two other reasons:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Wages and salaries\u2019 share of U.S. GDP has been declining pretty steadily since 1960 while corporate profits\u2019 share has increased, and that can\u2019t go on forever.<\/li>\n<li>Effective corporate tax rates have been declining, and that can\u2019t go on forever either.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>Mr. Market Is <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Not<\/span> Bernie Madoff<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>It seems implausible that equity investors somehow managed to get 310 basis points of spurious returns per year, and did so for over a century.\u00a0 In fact, they didn\u2019t.\u00a0 The mistake in Gross\u2019 reasoning, as Henry Blodgett points out, is that <strong>he is ignoring dividends<\/strong>.\u00a0 He is confusing \u201cstock market appreciation\u201d with \u201ctotal return\u201d which includes reinvestment of dividends.<\/p>\n<p>Another big conceptual flaw in Gross\u2019 reasoning is that <strong>the S&amp;P 500 is not coterminous with the U.S. economy<\/strong>.\u00a0 Fully one third of the S&amp;P 500 is outside the U.S., and even the domestic portion of the index is only a fairly small segment of the U.S. economy and a segment that is much more concentrated in high-tech, high-productivity growth parts of the U.S. economy.\u00a0 (To get a feel for what I mean, wander into your local town and look around.\u00a0 You will see hundreds of businesses, employing thousands of people, that are not in the S&amp;P 500.\u00a0 Most of them are labor-intensive service businesses with low productivity growth.)<\/p>\n<p><strong>Future of the \u201cCult Figure\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>With 10-year treasuries\u00a0 delivering a real yield of minus 0.5% (1.5% minus 2% inflation), the equity cult figure <strong>does not have to be as high as 6.6% to be attractive<\/strong>.\u00a0 It may well turn out to be lower, but this is not inevitable by any means.\u00a0 It is worth pointing out that Mr. Gross and his Pimco colleagues have been mostly wrong in expecting poor profit growth during the post-financial crisis \u201cnew normal\u201d era.\u00a0 S&amp;P 500 profits have doubled from their third quarter 2009 low, on a pro forma, rolling four quarter basis \u2013 despite egregious mismanagement of the U.S. and European economies. \u00a0Some of the factors that will determine whether stocks manage to maintain their 6.6% cult figure are:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Do U.S. firms intelligently use their free cash flow to boost shareholder return via dividends, buy-backs, and M&amp;A?\u00a0 More on that in a future post.<\/li>\n<li>Does the U.S. remain a\u00a0capitalist country or slip into European-style socialism with a stagnant private economy?<\/li>\n<li>Does U.S. population grow at a fairly healthy clip, partly via increased immigration geared toward economic growth?<\/li>\n<li>Do large U.S. firms continue to prosper in foreign markets?\u00a0 For example, judging from its disastrous power blackout hitting 600 million people, India could use a bit more help from the likes of GE, Eaton, and IBM.<\/li>\n<li>Does the European economy implode and\u00a0stagnate, or\u00a0rediscover capitalism and regain the economic vigor it had in the 1950s and 1960s?<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Recently Bill Gross, the brilliant \u201cbond king\u201d who\u00a0 founded Pimco, published a market commentary which The Wall Street Journal summarized with the headline: Bill Gross:\u00a0 Stocks Are Dead and Operate Like a \u2018Ponzi Scheme\u2019 It sounds ominous, but it could &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.wallstreetandkstreet.com\/?p=84\">Continue reading <span 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